Our topics include conspiracy theory, secret societies, ufos and more. The worlds sixteen crucified saviors raised a host of questions, few of which have yet been adequately answered, over a century later. Kersey graves and the worlds sixteen crucified saviors 2003 richard carrier editors note. The noncrucified nonsaviors of the world apologetics press. Discussion about there were at least 16 crucified saviors before jesus page 2 at the godlikeproductions conspiracy forum. This is a more detailed offering upon which the first few chapters of tif was based. Kersey graves and the worlds sixteen crucified saviors. Everyday low prices and free delivery on eligible orders. I also found several interesting books on the subject, such as the worlds sixteen crucified saviors. Nailed continues to garner more fans and accolades, and generate cranky hate mail. The worlds sixteen crucified saviours christianity before christ 97809328954. Containing new, startling, and extraordinary revelations in religious history, which disclose the oriental origin of all the doctrines, principles, precepts, and miracles of the christian new testament, and furnishing a key for unlocking many of its sacred mysteries, besides compromising the history of sixteen heathen. Normal content that is suitable for ages 16 and over.
Or, christianity before christ, containing new, startling, and extraordinary revelations in religious history, which disclose the oriental origin of all the doctrines, principles, precepts, and miracles of the christian new testament, and furnishing a key for. In all of the cases of his crucified saviors, unlike jesus, none were actually. And the latin phrase suspensus lingo, found in his history, indicates the manner of his death. The worlds sixteen crucified saviors wikipedia audio article. This is a conflation of three responses which were made by richard carrier to feedback and email involving questions about the scholarhip of kersey graves, in particular, and about scholarship, in general, in the subject area about which graves concerned himself in the worlds sixteen.
Moody american clergyman by far the greater part of those who embraced the christian religion in this its infancy being men of mean extraction and wholly illiterate, it could not otherwise happen but that a great scarcity should be experienced in the churches of persons possessing. Hence, there is an amazingly apparent similarity between the hindu god krishna with that of. Dionysus also known as bacchus was a greek and roman god of wine. Prometheus of the caucasushe was crucified in 547 b. The worlds sixteen crucified saviors, by kersey graves, 1875, full text etext at. The worlds sixteen crucified saviors 1875 the worlds sixteen crucified saviors. His parents were quakers, and as a young man he followed them in their observance, and then later moved to the hicksite wing of quakerism. A small part of it was reprinted in the book your church doesnt want you to read in 1994, thereby causing renewed interest. Graves, kersey 1919, the worlds sixteen crucified saviors or christianity before. As a nonchristian, i am approaching this topic purely as an interested observer. There are many chapters covering the similarities of the different religions and their saviors. Ten christian myths that showed jesus never existed at all. Still, prominent atheists like david fitzgerald cling to this outdated research.
Kersey graves the worlds sixteen crucified saviors chapter 16. The worlds sixteen crucified saviors has been out of print but sought after for many years. Sep 11, 2014 6 krishnas spirit does ascend, but his body remains on earth and is cremated. The idea was to make the militant jewish rebels accept a peaceful messiah. For i determined not to know anything among you, save jesus christ and. Top 100 conspiracy theories of all time truth control. The authors claimed that the amulet was a depiction of the god dionysus on a cross, and thus, they concluded. The worlds 16 crucified saviors christianity before. Or, christianity before christ, containing new, startling, and extraordinary revelations in religious history, which disclose the oriental origin of all the doctrines, principles, precepts, and miracles of the christian new testament, and furnishing a key for unlocking many of its sacred mysteries, besides. The virtuous woman will have but one husband, and the rightminded man but one wife. E xamples of some of the 16 crucified saviors and jesus similarities krishna and jesus the word christ has descended from the greek word, christos meaning anointed one. Kersey graves november 21, 18 in brownsville, pennsylvania september 4, 1883 in richmond, indiana was a skeptic, atheist, rationalist, spiritualist, reformist writer, who was popular on the american freethought circuit of the late 19th century.
This is a conflation of three responses which were made by richard carrier to feedback and email involving questions about the scholarhip of kersey graves, in particular, and about scholarship, in general, in the subject area about which graves concerned himself in the worlds sixteen crucified. Like all the other so called saviors, he was buried or placed in a tomb, and then miraculously rose from the dead and went up to heaven. Or, christianity before christ, containing new, startling, and extraordinary revelations in religious history, which disclose the oriental origin of all the doctrines, principles, precepts, and miracles of the christian new testament, and furnishing a key for unlocking many of its sacred mysteries, besides comprising the history of 16 heathen. Caesars messiah and joseph atwill debunked asic premise ofcaesars messiah is that the roman imperial family, the flavians, invented jesus by using the jewish historian josephus and, presumably, other people to write the gospels after rome defeated the jews in 70 ad. One of the boldest claims of jesus being a copy of dionsyus was a book called the jesus mysteries which featured the amulet pictured below. Buy the worlds sixteen crucified saviors by kersey graves isbn. It is claimed by the disciples of jesus christ, that he was of supernatural and divine origin. Seeking these origins is, in my opinion, of vital importance for it yields invaluable information about the present sorry human condition. But let me warn you, this book is not for everyone.
Many of them, like him, were crucified for the sins of the world. Or, christianity before christ, containing new, startling, and extraordinary revelations in religious history, which. The scholarship of kersey graves has been questioned by numerous theists and nontheists alike. The god who wasnt there, refuted tekton apologetics. Christianity before christ by kersey graves, and the christ conspiracy, and suns of god. Similarly, the word krishna in greek means christos. Give yourself permission to live your dream facebook. Containing new, startling, and extraordinary revelations in religious history, which disclose the oriental origin of all the doctrines, principles, precepts, and miracles of the christian new testament, and furnishing a key for unlocking many of its sacred mysteries, besides compromising the history of sixteen. Free shipping and pickup in store on eligible orders. Today the church finds itself bombarded with all kinds of criticism. Kersey graves was a skeptic, atheist, spiritualist, nontheist friend, reformist and writer. The worlds sixteen crucified saviors islamicity forum islamic. Or christianity before christ is unreliable, but no comprehensive critique exists. The worlds sixteen crucified saviors, or, christianity.
He was crucified, buried in a tomb and resurrected. And, finally, like him, are reported as ascending back to heaven. God will punish him who laughs at womans sufferings. Kersey graves november 21, 18 in brownsville, pennsylvania september 4, 1883 in richmond, indiana was a skeptic, atheist, rationalist, spiritualist.
The worlds sixteen crucified saviors, or, christianity before christ. However, the question of origins must remain secondary to the more vital question concerning the validity of the myriad tenets. He was also the way, the truth, the light, the messiah, gods anointed son, the son of man, the good shepherd, the lamb of god, the word etc. There are many chapters covering the similarities of the different religions and their. The worlds sixteen crucified saviors wikipedia audio.
If youre reading this page apart from the book, you can find the book here. He was the fisher, and was associated with the lamb, lion and fish ichthys. Or christianity before christ revised and enl edition. The book looks at the 16 religious saviors that were crucified in their persepctive religions, all before the advent of christianity.
Of course, graves cannot be discredited for this particular error, since in his day scholars. Oct 27, 1992 the worlds sixteen crucified saviors has been out of print but sought after for many years. One of these is the notion that christianity owes its origins to pagan religions. Throughout my work i have attempted to discover where the various judeochristian traditions originally came from. Apologetics press the noncrucified nonsaviors of the world. To the right is an old photograph of it, with a detail revealing its proximity to the ulster bank.
Evidence for jesus and parallel pagan crucified saviors examined. This parallel pagan argument or copycat thesis is found on a number of web sites critical of christianity mainly hyper. What an the worlds sixteen crucified saviors imposing title for a book what startling developments of. Shop amongst our popular books, including 39, worlds sixteen crucified saviours, mathematical logic and the philosophy of god and man and more from kersey graves. There were at least 16 crucified saviors before jesus page 2. If you are finding this page from the impossible faith book, welcome. How to quickly debunk the horusjesus myth i remember the first time i heard the story of the las vegas vacationer who took a girl back to his hotel room but passed out, only to awake the next morning in a bathtub filled with ice and a kidney missingthe victim of organ harvesters. May 29, 2002 he was crucified, buried in a tomb and resurrected.
The voynich code the worlds most mysterious manuscript the secrets of nature duration. Kersey graves the worlds sixteen crucified saviors debunked part 1. These have all received divine honours, have nearly all been worshiped as gods, or sons of god. The worlds sixteen crucified saviors kersey graves. It claims his parents vasudeva and devaki had 7 other children before he was born, and that the soul of krishna passed from his father vasudeva to devaki during sex. Kersey graves the worlds sixteen crucified saviors. Graves was apparently not working from original sources, with the exception of the bible. The same violent convulsions of nature at the crucifixion of several are reported. Kersey graves author of the worlds sixteen crucified saviors. Inspirit nutrition back again for another installment. David fitzgeralds essay, ten beautiful lies about jesus, that received an honorable mention in the 2010 mythicist prize contest has been expanded into a book, nailed.
Or, christianity before christ, containing new, startling, and extraordinary revelations in religious history, which disclose the oriental origin of all the doctrines, principles, precepts, and miracles of the christian new testament, and furnishing a key for unlocking many of its sacred mysteries, besides comprising the history of 16 heathen crucified gods. Or, christianity before christ, containing new, startling, and extraordinary revelations in religious history, which disclose the oriental origin of all the. Topics 16 crucified saviors collection opensource language english. Speaking of this crucified messiah, the anacalypsis informs us that several histories are given of him, but all concur in representing him as having been an atoning offering for sin. Was jesus a copy of horus, mithras, krishna, dionysus and. They essentially said that jesus was nothing more than a copy of popular dyingandrising fertility gods in various placestammuz in mesopotamia, adonis in syria, attis in asia minor, and horus in egypt. Please note how badly justins comments are misused in the context. A very interesting book from a historical and a religions perspective. Kersey graves author of the worlds sixteen crucified. Kersey graves wrote a book titled the worlds 16 crucified saviors which has since been thoroughly debunked. Apr 07, 2012 dionysus also known as bacchus was a greek and roman god of wine. The worlds sixteen crucified saviors, by kersey graves. The worlds 16 crucified saviors christianity before christ.
The new testament tells us that one man jesus was crucified, betrayed by one man judas iscariot, history tells a different story. Truth control has assembled a list of the most outrageous and thought provoking conspiracies you will ever hear. Some of them turn out to be true, some turn out to have elements of truth and others are completely false. It is claimed by the disciples of jesus christ that he was of supernatural and divine origin. In 2010, i produced a more detailed version as part of a broader apologetic titled defending the resurrection. The official history of adolf hitler is that he committed suicide on april 30, 1945. The worlds sixteen crucified saviors index sacred texts.
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